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Yes, Clyde admitted to stabbing Sonny, but still, he still thought that Alex looked like his son. Then they keep bringing up Ben every chance they can get, when Clyde mistook Alex for Ben, Abby at the cemetery with Chad, bringing Ben up to him, & remember, when Clyde did stab Sonny, Sonny was in front of the filing cabinet, & yet, when Leo found his body in his office, indicating the body was moved & we didn’t see Clyde moving Sonny’s body, now did we?
Then this: With how Ben had put in with every effort in him & with Marlena’s help to the point where he survived his childhood & he had left Salem with his wife & child, why give the illusion that Ben did it given how long he has been gone for?
Then this: When Stephanie became an addition & became an employee at Titan, with Sonny in the CEO position & Alex was made interim CEO, with Sonny sidelined, Alex was the one who had put it out there to Sonny pre-stabbing, “You were serious”, what better way to get Sonny out of the way because Sonny was dictating Alex’s love life is by helping Clyde. Yes, I know that Clyde confessed to stabbing Sonny, but remember, all we had gotten from Sonny is a blurred image & dis dang boom, he said it was Clyde, when the blurred image would have Sonny two people for each other.
Can you imagine, with Clyde alive & if he stands trial, Clyde’s lawyer would make mincemeat out of Sonny by getting Leo to bring up the seduction plot of Sonny’s when he & Will tried to convince Chad to do to Leo is what put Abby’s murder into play. Remember, when Sonny put his plan into motion, is what led Brady to tell him about Jackie Cox & put into motion for Craig to learn who he was marrying is a bigamist & that was the catalyst to put the murder of Abby into motion, without Sonny’s plan, there wouldn’t be any need for the events to fall into line that led to Clyde’s killing Abigail.
I just want to put it out there that every chance they keep bringing Ben every chance they can get given with how long Ben had been gone for & who looks like Ben to Clyde, Alex.
Also, given that all Craig had brought up was hearing of the list & deducing who was on it, but he has no clue of the weapon.
This does go to Kristen, this is also about Chloe, with family court being family court, isn’t very odd that content on a flash drive is admissible in family court when it came to Brady winning custody?
This involves Orpheus. with how Orpheus feels about JarLena, PatchAyla, & RomAte, with John being Brady’s dad & the was questioned to defend his son in getting custody. Brady should have lost, based on the fact that with Kristen bringing up Brady & the attempted killing of Phillip, why didn’t she bring up as to what Orpheus & Evan had done to Maggie, given that it led to Sarah’s dead child, so by giving Brady custody would allow Orpheus to go after Rachel, now wouldn’t he?
Did you read the synopsis: Craig brought this up. He brought up that he had heard about Leo’s list & deduced that Brady & Chloe were on the list. Meaning, he only knew of the list, not the weapon. Then he brought up that in a way it is his fault, because he failed to listen to others warnings about Leo. So the question that I have is why bring up as to what he failed to listen to & then go around & have him to be seen as the killer, given that he was the one who brought up as to what he failed to listen to from who?
Yes, Craig may have the vanilla scent on him, that Chad had smelled when he accidentally ran into Clyde, Craig & Nancy, but remember this: With him failing to know about the weapon, you really think that he took the weapon to Titan’s offices & used it on Sonny, given that it was Sonny who tried to warn Craig about who?
Remember, 5 seconds after Sonny’s promotion, Leo learned of it. That was when he plotted to take it out on Sonny, by rendering him unconscious & stripping him & then sent the content to Will, do you really think that without Leo’s actions, that Abs’ killing & Sonny’s stabbing would have taken fold, so once Leo put his actions into play, meaning, once he learned about the seduction plan from Chad talking to his wife is what put Leo’s actions into play, it what started the whole thing, so why negate all of that to show to the viewers that Craig did this, given who’s actions put what into play first?
Where are you again? Are they keeping the audience guessing? When Chad encountered Clyde & Craig, he did smell the scent of vanilla on Craig, but Craig did bring up a very good point. He had brought up in the pub that the attack on Sonny & Abs’ killing is on him. He did bring up that they all tried to warn him, so do you think that he would attack people who were trying to warn him & yet bring up not hearing their warnings?
It’s very unlikely that not hearing their warnings would have him attack the messengers who were putting out warnings to him, don’t you think?
Thanks for the response: I hope that you have read in the daily synopsis or the upcoming daily synopsis you end up learning that Sonny Kiriakis remembered the smell of vanilla. Since you have brought up both characters, meaning, Clyde & or Li Shin, we could lose tomorrow & no one would miss them, they are not major players, wouldn’t that apply to Jackie Cox. With Jackie Cox being a drag persona, can you see deportation of a drag persona holding water? Think about it with the smell of vanilla, in drag queen makeup, I can see vanilla being the main ingredient, so I can see as to how Jackie could easily have stabbed Sonny in the back, given that he & Chad flew Jackie to the double weddings because she did bring up half of Craig’s money was supposed to be hers.
I can’t see how Jackie killed Abigail, because Abigail only knew about Lucas’ kidnapping of Sami, so I can’t see Jackie killing her, given that she didn’t help with flying who where, now did she?
If the killings are not related at all. Then when have Chad to tip Leo off by allowing Leo to hear that he was talking to his wife playing up to Leo that they both had a hand in Sonny’s plan to have Chad seduce Leo. Then, what Leo did to Sonny by sending the content to Will of Leo’s wild night with Titan’s new CEO? Remember, we did see 5 seconds after Sonny had gotten the CEO title, Leo was informed of it. Then this: if the killings are not related at all, then why Leo to frame?
Remember, Gwen: She told Leo how to use the weapon. He had the weapon. The weapon that Leo was told how to use was the weapon that was used on Abby, & on Sonny. Rafe had shown the weapon & the hit list to Sloan, she had no knowledge of the list, now did she?
If Leo is being framed & he never killed anyone, then why the nightmare he had, that could have come from a mental block Leo might have & the nightmare came into play because of his guilty conscience, don’t you think?
I can see Leo being framed, given that he had ample opportunity of killing Sonny in his hospital bed & didn’t. To me, I have a feeling that Leo blocked out everything he had done, meaning Abs’ murder & the attempted murder of Sonny. Remember, they did have Leo having a nightmare as to where Chad murders Leo by stabbing him. Isn’t it very odd that they play up the nightmare & yet give the illusion of Leo being framed if there’s a chance that nightmare took place, due to his guilty conscience of acting on the killing & the attempted murder?
Time Period of the show: 2023. The year leap.
I can see that Leo could have been framed given that his hit list showed up at Titan’s offices as well as the knife that was lunged into Sonny.
But remember, the only people that knew about the knife being left behind at the murder scene was Leo & Sloan & she’s keeping quiet, I can’t see her slipping in to the De Mira house to the weapon on Abigail two months before she showed up, now can she?
I can’t see that Sloan is Chad’s full-blooded sister, or half-blooded sister, given that Madeline Woods fell to her death on a staircase at the docks, much less being the daughter of Leisure’s D.A. Woods’ given his vasectomy. Remember, Madeline fell to her death 13 years ago, given the year leap making the year 2023, & D.A. Woods left town 12 years ago.
Remember, Sloan doesn’t know anything about the knife, given that Leo had led her & Rafe to the mask, & not the weapon, now did he?
If there are rumors of Victor’s death, then why isn’t there anything about the actor leaving?
The question that I have is why Abe made the decision to run, I know that Price Town is no more & that they have been there done that, but what I’m getting at is that with how Paulina blindsided everyone with it, including Abe, putting it into motion & was about to do it, the last thing that Abe would want is to run for Governor & yet also be blindsided when it comes to wife’s actions that he doesn’t see coming, wouldn’t that hurt him in the running for Governor?
To me, what I see with this, is that Leo had the weapon when he was in the closet. With how he was told as to how to use it, Gwen in a Sarah mask showed up, Leo refused to use it to kill anyone, Gwen as Sarah used it & killed Abigail with it, then once Abby on the bed stabbed to death, Gwen left her disguise behind with the weapon, she showered, to get the blood off of her, Leo knowing the blood is on the disguise, he put it on & put on the mask & it was his Sarah that Lucas had seen leaving & dropping the weapon & with the color of the clothing he wore, meaning, a black ensemble, no one saw the blood on it.
So the question that I have is this: I can’t see how they can prove that Leo’s version took place, much less, Gwen’s version. Because it’s considered hearsay, either version may end up being total opposites of each other, so no one will know as to who did it, now would they?
In Leo’s hiding place. Thomas brought him breakfast. ChadAda had seen the dishes. The only silverware found was the fork.
When Leo was hiding in Abs’ bathroom & or closet, he had the weapon. So they can’t even put the weapon in the murderer’s hand.
When Gwen tells her story & Leo tells his lawyer his version, either one of them can’t prove it. Remember, one version would be protected & no one will ever know of it, given that it was said to a lawyer.
Then they go down with the Rashomon trope. They did that once before when Will went down for killing Adrienne, so did Maggie & then we learn that Orphy-boy & his demonic spawn ended up doing it.
What I’m getting at is that with how Leo having the murder weapon & hiding in Abs’ bedroom whatever, at the time of the murder, explain how the murderer used the weapon.
It was proven that it was the murder weapon, hence, why Leo freaked when he heard as to what was proven to be the weapon & that he had it when he was hiding. I can’t see that Leo is covering for Gwen, given that he had the weapon while hiding when the murder took place.
I think that this theory works: They had put it out there that it would be intricate. This is the theory. Leo had the mask, he stabbed Abs to death with what he has, then he had Ava come to the house to get the mask, she sends it to Gwen, so when showed up the D. Estate, she saw as to what Leo had done to Abs, she put the mask on, grabbed the weapon & a drunken Lucas saw who he thought it was when she was trying to get rid of the weapon.
Any Takers?
How exactly would he be looking for Gabi with how it was brought up of the chip that transformed Hope into Princess Gina would be planted into Stefan? Was it not brought up as to what that chip did to Hope, of Chloe & Gabi going over how they were both in love Stefan & what Chin had brought up to Rolf?
Would they be alluding to any of this if they are not going there?
I can’t see this happening, given that with how Abs’ funeral wasn’t even shown, I bet you dollars to doughnuts that Victor’s services wouldn’t be shown either & can you imagine the backlash this show would get if it isn’t shown?
Especially, given that the only members if the Kiriakis family that would be there would be Alex, Brady, Maggie & Sonny & no Justin at all, given Kurth’s contract with GH?
I may not know what Kristen has against Gabi. Wouldn’t you think that there has to be a story as to why Kristen wants Gabi to stay on at De Mira if she has no plans to take it out on Gabi, especially when EJ has Chad, Johnny & Kate’s shares, so with him having those shares, you tell me as to why & how Stefan can stop EJ, given as to what EJ has on Ava regarding that he had heard that it was Ava who helped Gwen to escape prison the night that Abs was killed?
Remember, at the time that Holly’s death was faked, Chloe was being romanced by Stefan, & that Chin & Kristen had brought that up, meaning, that they may talk him into romancing Chloe again so Gabi loses Stefan again.
