August 15, 2022 at 10:27 am #58585
When Leo tries to prove that he never killed anyone. It has been established that Thomas had told his dad, Shawn & Jada that he delivered breakfast to who he thought was the tooth fairy, this was before Brady, Chloe, Clyde & Nancy showed up. Now, when Leo proves he never killed anyone, the only thing they would focus on is knowing that Thomas had delivered breakfast to Leo, playing up that Thomas gave Leo the weapon that was used on his mommy. This puts Chad in prison the same way Lucas did for Will when it came to EJ’s shooting. So is Billy Flynn leaving, given how there’s a go-ahead to prove that Leo never killed anyone?August 16, 2022 at 9:09 am #58586
There’s absolutely no way Chad has to go to jail because and innocent 6 year old gave a knife, for the purpose of eating, to the Tooth Fairy. There’s no guilt on anyone’s part. Even if Leo had had gotten the knife himself, and left it lying around or let someone borrow it, without knowing the true intentions of that person, Leo wouldn’t be liable. This is basic law 101. Think of it like this, if you let someone borrow your car, and they killed someone while driving it, you’re not liable for the death of the person your friend killed.August 16, 2022 at 3:14 pm #58587
Then why did Lucas go to prison for Will, for when Will shot EJ? May I remind you that Leo had freaked when he learned as to what weapon was used on Abigail & also that Gwen told him how to use it, did she not? Yes, granted the knife was given to him, but still, he concealed it, & was told of how to use it & then the motive, her & others had a hand in Craig leaving Leo at the altar & what Nancy had told her daughter & Brady of the list that Leo had made in which Abigail was on. Then the topper, he had the weapon at the scene of the crime, & the jewels he had taken in which one of them was given to Nancy by Clyde. Clyde is in the position to get immunity in exchange to tell the police as to who had given him the jewels that he can lead the police to. Once Chad identifies his wife’s jewels & Clyde brings up as to who gave them to him, you tell me as to how Leo is exonerated?August 17, 2022 at 8:15 am #58592
Because Lucas confessed to shooting EJ. Only Lucas knew it was Will. He wiped the gun and put his fingerprints on it and then admitted to shooting EJ. He didn’t go to jail because he gave the weapon to Will. Now in more modern times, Lucas could still go to jail for not having his gun locked in a safe. Remember he just had the gun in a dresser drawer. So both he and Will would have gone to jail, Will for the crime and Lucas for not keeping the gun locked up.
NO ONE locks up their kitchen knives. So it’s not a crime that you’re liable for if your child takes a knife and commits a crime or happens to give that knife to someone who then later uses it to commit a murder. I highly recommend reading the laws regarding weapons used to commit crimes and who’s liable.August 17, 2022 at 4:03 pm #58593
EJ knew that it was Will. EJ blackmailed Will to steal the election from Abe, so Lucas isn’t the only one who knew.
What I’m getting at is that, yes, granted, Thomas may have given Leo the knife. He didn’t know that it was used to kill his mommy, now did he? What I’m getting at is that without delivering who breakfast, there wouldn’t have been a need for Gwen to tell Leo how to use it. The same way with Kate. Kate & Chad both knew as to what Lucas had done to EJ. They planted evidence on Belle, & that’s what sent EJ to prison for a crime he didn’t do. That’s why Kate brought up to Roman that is confessing that she is an accessory after the fact.
So what I’m getting at is that Leo can still go down for possessing the murder weapon, it doesn’t matter that he didn’t use it, they can still get him on possessing the murder weapon. Remember, he had the knife when Gwen told him how to use it. If Gwen is the murderer & not Leo she would have the knife, not Leo, don’t you think?
With how EJ went to prison for a crime he didn’t do would happen to Leo because of the jewels that he had given a piece of to Clyde to show that Leo had stolen them, then he was at the murder scene, & that he had the weapon concealed & was told how to use & you’re telling me that Gwen had the knife & not him, the only time she had the weapon was when she tried to get rid of the weapon. We still don’t know if that was Gwen or Leo, now do we?August 18, 2022 at 8:05 am #58598
I didn’t say Gwen had the knife. We all know Leo did. Leo is guilty of having the murder weapon in his possession. He is also guilty of “breaking” into the Dimera mansion. And lastly, he is definitely guilty of having stolen the jewelry and having Clyde fence it for him. He should go to jail for all of those crimes.August 18, 2022 at 1:42 pm #58599
So the question is this, with Leo having the weapon while he was hiding, how could anyone have used the weapon on Abigail, given that Leo had it on him at the time of the killing? I can’t see Leo giving the weapon to anyone & then give him immunity once the mask is found, given that when Gwen shows up, she could turn on Leo may naming him being the one that he gave her the weapon, so wouldn’t that overturn the immunity deal & he goes to prison with Gwen?August 19, 2022 at 7:57 am #58603
I have no idea. And maybe in the end, that won’t be the murder weapon. It doesn’t make sense that he would leave it in the room for someone to use, but then again it doesn’t make sense that if he did leave it, someone would use it and then he’d take it back and hide it. Unless, Gwen is the killer and he is covering for her.August 19, 2022 at 3:11 pm #58606
It was proven that it was the murder weapon, hence, why Leo freaked when he heard as to what was proven to be the weapon & that he had it when he was hiding. I can’t see that Leo is covering for Gwen, given that he had the weapon while hiding when the murder took place.
I think that this theory works: They had put it out there that it would be intricate. This is the theory. Leo had the mask, he stabbed Abs to death with what he has, then he had Ava come to the house to get the mask, she sends it to Gwen, so when showed up the D. Estate, she saw as to what Leo had done to Abs, she put the mask on, grabbed the weapon & a drunken Lucas saw who he thought it was when she was trying to get rid of the weapon.
Any Takers?August 20, 2022 at 8:24 am #58613
But why and how did Leo end up with it? Did Gwen give it back to Leo?August 20, 2022 at 3:18 pm #58617
In Leo’s hiding place. Thomas brought him breakfast. ChadAda had seen the dishes. The only silverware found was the fork.
When Leo was hiding in Abs’ bathroom & or closet, he had the weapon. So they can’t even put the weapon in the murderer’s hand.
When Gwen tells her story & Leo tells his lawyer his version, either one of them can’t prove it. Remember, one version would be protected & no one will ever know of it, given that it was said to a lawyer.
Then they go down with the Rashomon trope. They did that once before when Will went down for killing Adrienne, so did Maggie & then we learn that Orphy-boy & his demonic spawn ended up doing it.
What I’m getting at is that with how Leo having the murder weapon & hiding in Abs’ bedroom whatever, at the time of the murder, explain how the murderer used the weapon.August 21, 2022 at 7:52 am #58618
That’s what is so confusing. I remember Leo hiding in the closet with the weapon and when he ran to the park he had the weapon, so when did the murderer get the weapon? It makes no sense.August 21, 2022 at 3:30 pm #58619
To me, what I see with this, is that Leo had the weapon when he was in the closet. With how he was told as to how to use it, Gwen in a Sarah mask showed up, Leo refused to use it to kill anyone, Gwen as Sarah used it & killed Abigail with it, then once Abby on the bed stabbed to death, Gwen left her disguise behind with the weapon, she showered, to get the blood off of her, Leo knowing the blood is on the disguise, he put it on & put on the mask & it was his Sarah that Lucas had seen leaving & dropping the weapon & with the color of the clothing he wore, meaning, a black ensemble, no one saw the blood on it.
So the question that I have is this: I can’t see how they can prove that Leo’s version took place, much less, Gwen’s version. Because it’s considered hearsay, either version may end up being total opposites of each other, so no one will know as to who did it, now would they?
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