October 18, 2010 at 7:47 pm #1196
They had the whole series on at once the other night so I recorded it and started watching it. I didn’t really have much interest but Perez Hilton gave it a good review (and I MUST watch what Perez watches!!!) so thought I’d check it out.
I was very surprised how much I liked it. They were not the "bible-thumpers" that typical Mormon polygamists are usually shown as. They came across as just regular, run of the mill Mormons as opposed to the ones that dress, talk and live so conservatively. In fact, I found I had a lot of respect for how they lived their lives and how much everybody sincerely loved each other. He had three wives (and about to take a fourth) and had 12 kids with one on the way. The new wife had three of her own and came from a divorced relationship (which also surprised me). Most of the show revolved around the dynamics of the fourth wife coming into the family after 16 years of the others living together.
Anyway, if you get a chance to see it, check it out. You might like it. I really enjoyed watching the whole thing.October 18, 2010 at 9:17 pm #17117
I watch it because I think it is interesting for the fact that a woman in these days and times doesn’t have enough respect or think highly enough of or for herself to think that she would have to share a husband. It’s a backward step for self-respecting women all over.
I don’t think religion has anything to do with these people that are in the show. Even the Morman LDS church doesn’t abide by the principle anymore; not for one hundred and twenty years now.
This Kody guy has issues of nacissism and definitely loves himself on and off camera – (he thinks he’s cute). And he is definitely full of himself – just look at the p-nis mobile that he drives. I think he’s a "maroon" as Bugs used to say.
I think he got to watch HBO’s "Big Love" and too many reality shows on t.v. and thought he could make a buck or two. If it wasn’t for government subsidies, these people couldn’t survive. There are men in Utah with 15 wives all on welfare. They have nice homes and drive nice cars like in this show, (but subsist on the taxpayers dime). I for one, don’t want to pay for them with my taxes or glorify a lifestyle like that where women and young girls are treated as chattle. How many people in a traditional family these days have trouble making a marriage work, balancing work, children, taking care of elderly parents, paying a mortgage, keeping a career – and this guy complicates the equation by four? Yeahhhh, right.
Young boys/men (14, 15, 16 years old) are driven off from the families and dropped a hundred miles from the area they grew up with no money in their pocket or way to make a living so they don’t interfer with the "godfather’s" plan of bedding the next young thing. They end up drug mules, prostituting themselves or dead.
It’s a horrible life. Read E. Walls "Stolen Innocence" or Susan Schmidt’s "Favorite Wife". There is nothing romantic or fun about the lifestyle and no chance for human dignity.October 18, 2010 at 9:47 pm #17119kprstrsParticipant
My sentiments EXACTLY!!! Well said. BRAVO!!October 18, 2010 at 10:21 pm #17121SWParticipant
and what this new ‘girlfriend’ saw in him. Since I wasn’t raised in that type of home, I guess I can’t really relate but was curious about it. I remember one of the wives working an outside job and she indicated that she wasn’t the housewife type. I don’t know what the rest do for a living but he sure can drive a nice car.October 19, 2010 at 12:02 pm #17136
because it was so different from what we usually see in polygamist families. Actually, three of his four wives had jobs outside the home so they obviously had a pretty good income, although it would take quite a bit to support 12 (eventually 16) kids. I really didn’t find him narcissistic or full of himself either. (Lots of guys drive Porches.) I thought he was a very caring person who had deep concerrn for all four women and all the kids. When a guy sobs because he felt he hurt two of his wives, he’s obviously thinking of them, not himself. And I thought he was kind of cute, except for his hair…which he explained.
I also don’t condone the lifestyle, it’s just that I found them to be so different from the mainstream polygs (what they call themselves) it really caught my attention. I would like to see more except I don’t know what else they could feature as this series was all about taking the fourth wife. Probably every day life wouldn’t be as interesting.October 19, 2010 at 5:28 pm #17149
show to watch three men with one wife – (not!) And not that a man’s ego’s could ever handle that – just broach the subject and ask one. I would bet that 100% would say "No Way"! I have just read a few books on polygamy from real people and there was no "happy ending" except for the man. The women and the children suffered because of this lifestyle.
And because there are a number of cultures in the world that adhere to this way of life (most notably in the news – our enemies) – I’ve also read several books about polygamy in those cultures around the world – never ends up well for the women. I’m not a "NAG" (NOW -woman’s libber at all) – but I would like women to be treated in this era of the year 2010 as viable and worthwhile persons standing on their own merit and abilities while having a stable, loving marriage. Most modern day cultures that came from ancient/old faiths, have banished the practice of polgamy. I think the t.v. shows like this show this for titilation of the viewers (and selling advertising of course).
I would prefer to not see a glorification on t.v. of the lifestyle – I would rather if the t.v. stations are going to show these kinds of shows that they point out the reality on both sides of the coin. Especially, if the show is going to call itself a reality show – this was more like a mini-soap opera. Heh, (on the lighter side of a sad subject), maybe DOOL could do a story line about it? I mean they are almost there now with the switching beds/partners story lines.October 20, 2010 at 12:08 am #17168luckeyParticipant
the "husband" was disgusting. Narcissist…most definitely! As far as I could tell, it sounded like he may only be legally married to the first wife. Clips from the show made it look like they did some kind of private ceremony at home when he "married" the other three women. Not my cup of tea as far as being entertaining to watch.October 20, 2010 at 12:52 am #17178
to one person, (you used to could say between a man and a woman – but some states have forgone this). So he’s only legally married to the first wife. I say when they "legalize" all marriages – I’m marrying my dog, I need the tax break! LOL!October 20, 2010 at 12:38 pm #17190
And again I’ll say that they did not seem to represent the mainstream polygamists which is what made the show so interesting to me. You say that it never ends happily for the women, yet all four of these wives claim that it’s the lifestyle they prefer and would not be happy in a monogamous marriage. They were married 20, 16 and 15 years. How many monogamous marriages don’t last that long?
The first one urged her DH to take on more wives. The third one said she was particularily looking for a man with two wives because she always wanted to be the third and the large family was more important than the husband. That said, however, all four of them came from poly families themselves so that’s probably ingrained in them, although one of the daughters said she didn’t want a poly relationship for herself and her mother was fine with that. They all said they only wanted what would make their kids happy, even if they didn’t practice any religion at all.l
I’ll have to admit that I’m very liberal when it comes to marriage. I think gays should be able to legally marry and, if that’s what makes them happy, so should polygamists. Okay, you can start throwing your stones now. (No doggies, though Pammy! I have to draw the line there. )October 20, 2010 at 1:52 pm #17196PattiParticipant
but I have watched Big Love, and they seem the same to me.October 20, 2010 at 7:04 pm #17214
lately? I need a tax break big time – and spend more time with my dogs than guys of late! And like my dogs better at times too!October 21, 2010 at 8:17 am #17230KseeParticipant
why does anyone have the right to define what makes a family! weather it be the "typical family" male and a female, same sex or plural ?October 21, 2010 at 12:19 pm #17232
I lived in CA for 33 years. And I’ll trade you CA taxes for FL’s anytime. With the exception that we don’t pay state income tax, they are horrendous here. My property taxes are FOUR times here that what they were in CA and my house and lot were bigger there.
Other than state income tax, how would being married help you? The biggest impact there would be federal taxes. Have you considered a "financial beneficial" marriage? You just marry just for the financial benefits and that’s it. However, once you’re on social security, it usually becomes more beneficial to be single. You can’t win. Okay, you can marry one doggie but one only.
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