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  • #2572
    casey
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    I’m talking her resentment toward John. She evidently still blames him for that ancient incident on the plane and that she can’t have mommy and daddy together.
    That snippy look on her face when she told Marlena she thinks John might be guilty is one I’d like to wipe off her face. Maybe Sami should get a good retrospective of her own past behaviors before she goes accusing her own stepdad. I am finding this childishness ever more unacceptable in a 30-something yr old woman.

    #28157
    bluebonnet
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    about that scene was the fact that Marlena was pressuring Sami to come and see John and take the kids with her. Marlena knows that she and John are in a dangerous position since people are angry at them. Why would she put Sami and the children in harm’s way just to make John feel better? Agreed that Sami has been quick to accuse John, but in her eyes, he was probably manipulated into doing it. I don’t think Marlena makes that distinction. To her, anyone who thinks John might be guilty is thinking that he just did it to be greedy. She hasn’t recognized the fact that John might have committed the crime, but either didn’t know he was doing it or was brainwashed into doing it.

    #28159
    majenco
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    I have thought from the beginning that if John did this he can just say it was due to being brainwashed.  Why is it so wrong for people to believe that?  It makes total sense.  I don’t think it’s a question of loyalty to John, it’s just common sense in the weird Salem alternate universe.

    #28164
    justwondering
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     John is Marlena’s husband. I don’t think that she could ever think that her husband is guilty. Call it loyalty or love, she would never consider it. Remember how upset people were when Brady didn’t stand by Ariana?  

    I think that she cannot accept Sami being against John. Especailly cause in the beginning Sami was very supportive of John.Also how would Sami have seen the evidence? Or is she just listening to Austin?

    #28170
    DeeLan
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    Sami’s remembering when John was Robo John and did a lot of things that were out of character for him so to her if the evidence says he did it she’s thinking he might have but not be aware of it.  So, even though she think’s he’s guilty she is understanding that he wasn’t in control at the time.  Austin’s thinking the same way.

    Marlena was with John and saw that he couldn’t move and was going through extensive therapy and experimental procedures so to her no matter what evidence they have John couldn’t have been physically capable of being where the photo’s say or doing what they say he did.  She’s been a victim of the DiMera’s and know what they’re capable of so her mind immediately goes there.  Rafe agrees with Marlena but he didn’t know John when he was under Stefano’s control but he does know what the DiMera’s are capable of and the fact that they can create a duplicate to do their bidding.

     

    #28173
    casey
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    thinks that? That John may be guilty but it’s not really his fault? I may have misread or misheard something in that scene, but from what I recall Sami didn’t make that distinction. From both her impertinent expression and words I got the impression she felt he might be guilty – period. I hope she clarifies that on Monday.

    #28174
    DeeLan
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    Yeah, Sami said she knows what he was like after the DiMera’s got done with him and he may still be having effects from that and not know what he’s been doing.  She might not have said that to Marlena but she did say it to Rafe a few times and also when her and Austin were talking about it.

    #28175
    Patti
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    For instance, let’s just say Sami could be right, and John could have committed this crime but not remember it, because he was still brainwashed.  Okay then, that would explain when and how he could have taken the money.  What it doesn’t explain is how could he have been in a hospital in Switzerland, unable to walk, and be in Paris at the same time, standing, obviously walking, and committing this horrendous crime?  Is Stefano still using John as his pawn?  Is E.J. involved in any way, since he’s already mentioned some sort of clue to Nicole that John will be one of his biggest assets and he doesn’t even know it?  I remember him saying this to Nicole when John first came back.  Do the DiMeras still control John’s mind, or is there someone else involved here?  And why were the deposits/withdrawals always in the exact same amount each month, and what in heaven’s name would Alice have to do with any of Basic Black’s investors’ funds?  I’m driving myself crazy trying to put this puzzle together; so, please, let’s move this story along writers.  Bored with the pace now; time to get this mystery train rolling.

    #28177
    SW
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     living with/even sleeping with someone she thought was Rafe but wasn’t!  She has to know that the Dimeras can do all sorts of strange things so John not realizing it sounds a whole lot better than what happened with Rafe, actually having a double that looked so much like the real one, she didn’t realize.  Of course, given that, she should also know that it is possible it wasn’t the real John.  Sami never really loved John like she did her real dad, Roman.  

    My other question would be, if John was really embezzling all this money, where is it???  I can’t believe that he could have spent it all on entertainment/medical whatever.  As to who else was involved, I’d suspect the Dimeras (Stefano/Kate/EJ) but I wonder if the mysterious father of Quinn will play into this story?  Just a thought.

    #28180
    53tdogs
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    guilty would be like Bo or John Wayne or Superman being a bad guy.  Not going to happen!  John is either: 1. Under Stefano’s mind control, 2., Brainwashed (see #1) by Stefano, 3. a doppelganger – as they did with Rafe.  But if it is a senerio like 1, 2, or 3, then been there – done that and we’re (the fans) are T-I-R-E-D of this SL and so you’d better not be promising us all one thing and delivering another writers and Corday!

    #28184
    DeeLan
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    The questions you have are all questions I have.  EJ’s comment about John being his biggest asset though I took to mean that EJ was going to file the class action suit and that would get the voters behind him.

    #28193
    luckey
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    EJ’s plan to discredit Abe.

    #28196
    Bonbon
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    You got that right!

    #28341
    IzzyB
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    I think Sami is on to a possible scenerio here.  She knows what John has been through and realizes that maybe something could have happened where the John everyone knows is not the one doing this, but this "other" John.  Maybe split personality or something like that.  I don’t think there is any way John is guilty, but it could be another Hope like situation.  I also believe someone is setting him up and caused this to play out in some way.

    RoboJohn was scary for everyone, including Sami, and I think she remembers that too much.

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