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  • #58838
    zodiacpisces1971
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    According to the November 28 2022 issue of Soap Opera Digest. Susan gets blown up in a fiery accident caused by Ava.

    Is that a wise move, when Kayla, Steve & Tripp are questioning as to what did Ava do that resulted with Tripp’s abduction.

    So with them questioning that, why abandon that by having Susan die in a fiery accident, given, the Susan I know can easily survive a gunshot, that could easily be a flesh wound, given that she survived her own stabbing when she was willing to be a human sacrifice to protect EJ from MarDevil?

    Especially with what I had read in the issue of no response, therefore, giving the illusion that Susan was never in the car.

    It’s too reminiscent of Holly’s death & then have her be found alive when Eric had found both mother & daughter.

    SideNote: Do you really think that Wendy would just leave Johnny behind when Li decides to rescue his sister from Rolf & threatens EJ by playing up Johnny’s life is in danger from Rolf?

    #58840
    mommytutu
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    Oh wow! So who has Susan? Previews for the coming week show EJ and Ava behind the wheel of separate cars. Then you see a car go over a cliff. I’m not I thought maybe Ava died, since they were supposedly writing her out of the show. Does she have Susan in the car with her? Is Susan in a different car? Or is this EJ’s car and Susan is with him? I honestly don’t see Susan being dead, dead, but I hope she’s in Ava’s car and Ava is dead, dead. I do not like her character.

    #58841
    zodiacpisces1971
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    Tony cautiously urges EJ to pay the ransom.

    The vision of Charlie encourages Ava to kill Susan.

    Xander shows up with Susan. Ava orders him to kill.

    EJ shows up with money, once Ava gets it, she gloats
    that Susan is dead, dead, dead

    He responds with I don’t believe you.

    Once he takes it out on Ava, Susan rushes in.

    Ava grabs Susan & puts a gun to her head & takes Susan away.

    Ava flees the scene. EJ follows. Charlie still haunts Ava.

    Ava steers the car off the road. EJ horrified sees the car
    go over the edge.

    He jumps out of his car & screams.

    Car blows up. It’s unclear there are any survivors.

    What I’m getting at is that this is not necessary.

    They have put it out there on the November 18th episode of
    Kayla, Steve & Tripp wonder as to why EJ had Tripp abducted.

    But yet they have this story taking fold.

    The question that I have is why not have Kayla, Steve & Tripp
    fly back to Salem & learn from EJ as to what Ava had done, &
    put into motion to prevent all of this before the events in
    play, play out?

    In the November 28th issue of Soap Opera Digest. Li Shin learns
    that Rolf had abducted Johnny & Wendy. Can you really see Li
    allowing Rolf to keep Johnny, knowing that this will backfire on
    him, given that Wendy had learned as to what Li did to Stefan,
    that she could blackmail her brother with, by threatening to
    tell their father?

    #58842
    mommytutu
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    Thank you for the spoilers. So it looks like Ava has Susan in her car and that’s the car that goes over the cliff. No one’s ever dead in Salem, so I guess they’ll both be alive.

    As for Li Shin, this is all going to bite him on the butt. First, he doesn’t want harm to come to his sister, and second any harm coming to Johnny will invoked the wrath of EJ.

    #58843
    zodiacpisces1971
    Participant

    That’s where you’re wrong. Li would definitely kill his own sister & he would also allow harm come to Johnny.

    Think about it, with Wendy now knowing that her brother had done what he had done to Stefan, would he keep her alive knowing that she will blab to their father as to what Li had done to Stefan? With EJ thinking that his mother had died, Li could easily manipulate EJ to do more criminalities by threatening harm to Johnny.

    This is my theory on Susan. I have a feeling that some way, some how, Ava & Susan form a sisterhood with each other, given that they are mothers. With Ava not wanting Tripp to know to what she had done, Susan can talk her into switching places. Susan can convince Ava to sacrifice herself to escape the charges & that Tripp would never know as to what she had done. So I hope that Stacey Haiduk & Tamara Braun are fitted with masks, yet again. Where Ava dons the Susan disguise & Susan dons the Ava disguise. So if a body is found, Let’s say that Ava’s body wearing the Susan disguise is found & Susan’s Ava is alive, She reveals herself to E.J. & they reunite, they both celebrate Ava’s death. Remember, I did see somewhere a photos of a dead Ava in the car. Did they or did they not put it out there of Braun leaving.

    #58847
    mommytutu
    Participant

    Supposedly Tamara Braun was leaving. This could be her exit.

    #58850
    zodiacpisces1971
    Participant

    What makes you think that this would be her exit. Given that it was put out there that she’s going to be let go when EJ forced her out of town, they didn’t need her to come back to play this out to put her exit into play, now did they?

    Don’t you think that opening it up of Kayla, Steve & Tripp wondering what Ava had done & then scrap it of them learning as to what she had done?

    #58851
    mommytutu
    Participant

    Maybe she’s like Stefano and she comes back to life again, this is Salem!

    #58852
    zodiacpisces1971
    Participant

    I don’t think so. Remember, it was the Phoenix serum that was used on Stefano, to give him that nickname.

    Then this: They had put it out there of Braun being let go, didn’t they.

    They did put out a still of Ava being found dead in a car, didn’t they?

    I can’t see Ava’s redemption is in the works, given that she had Xander to abduct Susan before she had seen Charlie’s ghost.

    It’s not EJ’s fault. Ava was the one behind Susan’s abduction.

    Why allow Johnny to win? There was a reason to have Gabi stabbed, so why isn’t there a reason to have Johnny stabbed with a syringe. So was there a reason to allow Johnny to win?

    With no evidence of any kind, JonEndy’s word of what Rolf had done to Stefan wouldn’t fly, now would it?

    Are there any plans of having Stefan turning into his late brother, Jake? Remember how Jake was there for Chad when Abs was killed, that it is exactly what we are seeing out of Stefan when he & Chloe learned of Susan’s death from EJ.

    To me this is a fact. Susan’s alive & well. Think about it with how Susan was willing to give MarDevil a human sacrifice, i.e. herself, do you really think that she would want allow herself to have her son to see how she died?

    #58853
    mommytutu
    Participant

    I do think Susan is alive. Ava, I’m not sure about, but there are spoilers with her next week. Wonder if she’s just a ghost, like Charlie.

    As for Wendy and Johnny, the first jab Rolf gave them was to knock them out so he could tie them up. The second jab, would have been for the dose that makes them forget. They never got the second jab. My question is why didn’t they inject Rolf with that? Then he would forget everything that happened and be none the wiser as to what Wendy and Johnny know.

    #58856
    zodiacpisces1971
    Participant

    I can see the first jab to knock them out & to restrain them. You tell me as to why we never saw the second jab that makes them forget? If the second jab made them forget, you tell me as to how they would be strong enough for one of them to get out of their restraints & tie Rolf up?

    #58859
    mommytutu
    Participant

    If you recall, Rolf was about to give the second jab to Wendy when Johnny was able to get loose from the restraints and he attacked Rolf. As he was fighting with Rolf, Wendy got loose and hit Rolf over the the head. He passed out and then Johnny and Wendy tied him up.

    #58860
    zodiacpisces1971
    Participant

    Johnny was able to get loose from the restraints, he attacked Rolf. Why didn’t Johnny hit Rolf instead of allowing Wendy to do it?

    What Rolf did was dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. Because he allowed himself to go after Wendy, allowing Johnny to attack him. Why not allow Rolf to render Johnny useless before subjecting Wendy with that syringe?

    #58863
    mommytutu
    Participant

    I don’t know why things happened the way they did, but that’s what happened. Why didn’t Wendy and Johnny get loose from the restraints prior to Rolf coming in? It’s the plot!

    #58865
    zodiacpisces1971
    Participant

    So if even Helen Keller can see the plot holes, why keep allowing it?

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