August 9, 2022 at 4:42 pm #58560
With how Shin knew about Jake’s heart being given to Stefan. With Kristen knowing that Jake’s heart was given to Stefan & with how Rolf had transplanted Jake’s heart into Stefan, you tell me what makes them think that Stefan would be Stefan? Think about it, once Stefan comes back & everyone learns that he’s alive, what happens if he begins to have Jake’s feelings, meaning, Stefan falling for Ava, given that it was Jake who bought the engagement ring for Ava.
I kind of doubt that Stefan’s memories would override Jake’s heart, now would it?August 10, 2022 at 11:28 am #58561
But your feelings don’t come from your heart, they literally come from your brain. That’s where all of the centers of emotions are.August 10, 2022 at 4:26 pm #58562
Actually, your feelings do come from your heart. Remember, when Will having all of his memories back was telling Sonny. He said & I quote: ” You’re in my heart, the love I have for you is in my bones, in my blood. If your feelings come from your brain, explain as to why that was written the way it was then?
Then this: Remember, Jake was Jake & Stefan was Stefan, they are two different characters, yes, they may be identical twins, but they had very different lives,
did they not, can you really think that Stefan won’t fall in love with Ava, the
way that Jake did, given that they have the same genetic makeup to make them twins?
Remember, Johnny & Allie, they are, I may not know how they are twins, but still Allie sacrificed herself to eradicate Satan out of Johnny & allowed herself to take Satan into herself, did she not?
Remember the old adage, the more & more & more they keep protesteth to much, it’s quite likely that the opposite would happen.
So with them keep protesting ad nauseum of Stefan being Stefan, it’s quite likely that they may not get the Stefan they knew then, now would they?
Remember, EJ has more shares that would definitely oust Gabi from De Mira, because EJ has Chad’s shares, Johnny’s shares, after his exorcism, he gave his father his shares, didn’t he, & Kate’s shares. The reason as to why he has Chad & Kate’s is because they want to stay out of prison for being accessories in framing EJ for Sami’s abduction. So with all of those shares that he has, why the need to get Jake’s shares, so what’s the point of this story?
August 10, 2022 at 6:00 pm #58564doolfanParticipant
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Weren’t the shares Johnny gave EJ actually EJ’s shares to begin with? Didn’t Johnny swindle them away from EJ? So, if so, then EJ owns his own shares as well as Chad and Kate’s shares. Ava owns Jake’s shares, Gabi owns Stefan’s shares and Kristen owns her own shares. So assuming each individual has an equal number of shares, EJ only owns half the company. (Tony decided not to be involved in the day to day business of DiMera so I guess his shares aren’t being voted.)
If Johnny had his own shares and then signed them over to EJ, then EJ would be the majority owner.
Of course, this is a television soap opera so reality and details don’t count.August 11, 2022 at 6:58 am #58566rfsextonParticipant
The heart is a organ/muscle. It has nothing to do with emotionsAugust 11, 2022 at 7:28 am #58567
I do see what you are saying because Will did bring up remembering his love for Sonny, bringing up that he remembered his wedding, but what I’m getting at is why did he bring up that the love he has for Sonny running so deep, that it’s in his heart, in his bones & in his blood? I do see what you are saying, but remember, when his memories were wiped to clean, he believed that he was EJ DeMira, so it affected his identity, so is it possible that when he remembered his wedding to Sonny, that it also affected the part of his brain that controlled emotions?August 11, 2022 at 9:20 am #58568
Just saw a spoiler for two weeks from now, Stefan tries to make his way back to Gabi. That said, no matter what Will said to Sonny, a person’s memory of love has to do with the brain, not hearts, not bones, not skin. The key is that when Will began to remember Sonny . . . He remembered with his brain. So unless they’ve also transplanted Jake’s brain, all of Stefan’s memories will be his own.August 11, 2022 at 3:04 pm #58573
But Stefan’s memories being his own would have him stuck with the time period he was alive in. Then, with how Gabi had put it out there that Stefan was the love of her life & that he’s her Sonny Kiriakis to her Will, then explain as to why she was so willing to use his heart as a weapon when Julie had gotten it?
No matter as to how she feels about Julie. She still used Stefan’s heart as a weapon, didn’t she, so you tell me as to how he’s the love of her life?
Let’s play Devil’s Advocate: Let’s say that love of Will’s life is Sonny & Sonny’s heart is given to Leo, if he needed it, can you really see him using Sonny’s heart as a weapon because as to how feels about Leo?August 12, 2022 at 8:58 am #58576
She used his heart as a weapon because she hated Julie. Remember, Gabi did kill Nick, albeit in self defense, but Julie has never forgiven Gabi for that. Stefan’s heart was a match for Julie. By your original theory of love coming from the heart, then Julie would now be in love with Gabi. Never did that happen. So hearts don’t hold the memories. And yes, Stefan’s memories will be just where they ended, if he gets them all back. Will didn’t have his memories, but when he got them back they were all the way up until Ben strangled him.
Will hates Leo, but he’s not that kind of a person. Gabi on the other hand, is not the same. She will do whatever it takes to survive. You really are comparing apples to oranges in this case. And Stefan’s weaponized heart still has nothing to do with the memories he will have of Gabi once he is brought back to life.August 12, 2022 at 4:25 pm #58579
It doesn’t matter if Gabi loathed Julie or not, that heart still belonged to Stefan, didn’t it & she still used it as a weapon, no matter as to you loathe, you use a heart like that from a person that was the love of your life, says something about you, now doesn’t it?
Then this: Ben may have strangled Will, but did he, given that he was rendered out cold, so can you really count it as a strangulation, because remember, Will was thrown into the mini-fridge door, remember, it was brought up when Rolf & Susan had found Will out cold before it was brought up of them seeing the strangulation marks on Will’s neck.
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