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  • #59679
    zodiacpisces1971
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    With the Alamanian War Weapon, there was action, drama, & intrigue. When it came to the abduction of Kate, there was some of that as well, & they had gotten Kate back to Roman, then there was action, drama, & intrigue when it came to getting Bo out from under Megan’s control, he maybe in a hospital bed for the moment, but still he got out from under Megan’s control & that they also managed to bring Kate, Kayla & Marlena out from under Megan’s control, but they had to allow to put immunity into play to rescue Andrew, when they could have easily had rescued Andrew & yet not granting immunity to Andy’s abductors, i.e. Mother & Son.

    When they showed the story as to how Andy was abducted. None of that took place, because, an ISA Agent that is that trained would be able to tell that what he had seen was faked & that it’s too reminiscent as to what had led Ava to abduct Susan that led Susan to her death, meaning an abducted Tripp being seen by Ava.

    The people that did have Andy, how do they know of Andy’s sexual proclivities with Paul, much less knowing that Andy had been humping Paul for that matter, & yet, knew of Paul for that matter. It’s not like that Andy & Paulie-boy had told the wrong people as to which way they swung, now did they?

    #59680
    mommytutu
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    I thought Tripp really had been kidnapped by EJ. That wasn’t faked.

    #59683
    zodiacpisces1971
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    I’m not saying that Tripp held hostage was faked, what I’m getting at is that the photo of him held hostage is what put Ava in the position to do what she did to Susan. What I’m getting at is that when Andrew had seen the faked photo of Paul held hostage lured Andrew to the trap, meaning, allowing Andrew to fall for it that led to his actions being abducted, & the reason as to why it’s reminiscent of what Ava had seen is because, her actions costed Susan her life, & Andrew’s actions led to his abduction, that’s what I’m getting at. What I’m getting at is that a trained ISA Agent couldn’t tell that it was faked, would have prevented his abduction, once he had used his training to deduce that it was faked, don’t you think?

    #59693
    mommytutu
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    I do think Andrew should have involved the ISA if he thought Paul had been kidnapped. He certainly shouldn’t have gone out on his own.

    #59696
    zodiacpisces1971
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    What I’m getting at is that once Andrew was rescued, Shane should have fired his son from the ISA, given that with his training, he thought more with his heart than his training, that could easily let him know that the photo was a fake, instead of falling for it, don’t you think?

    #59701
    mommytutu
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    No, of course he wouldn’t fire his son. Shane has done the same for Kimberly.

    #59702
    zodiacpisces1971
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    But isn’t Andrew a highly trained ISA Agent, who can spot a fake in a millisecond, wouldn’t it make the ISA an embarrassment that one of their own had fallen for a fake? You tell me as to how Shane wouldn’t fire his son? Remember, Sonny, When Victor’s great-nephew by marriage was presumed to be dead, did he or didn’t he tell his nephew, his niece-in-law & great-nephew as to what had led to Sonny’s stabbing the night that Will literally fucked up Paul, & when he turned on Vivian what led to Leo to get rid of what could sink his case, meaning, the harrassment charges, by getting rid of his texts, & the dating app, look what happened their, Victor fired Sonny, didn’t he, so you tell me as to how Shane wouldn’t have fired his own son in believing as to what Helen Keller can spot in being a fake?

    #59705
    mommytutu
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    Victor is Sonny’s grandfather, and Titan is a private corporation. I’m sure things work a little differently in the ISA. It’s like working for the FBI or CIA. One mistake doesn’t get you fired. They are govt. agencies and they do things differently than private businesses.

    #59706
    zodiacpisces1971
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    I get what you are saying because private businesses operate differently than govt. agencies, but still, a well trained agent with a Government agency are trained to spot takes, & yet, you tell me as to there’s no recourse at all when a Federal Agent can’t tell a fake from the real deal?

    #59707
    mommytutu
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    There is recourse, but it doesn’t mean you get fired immediately. My husband is retired from the military and I have a friend whose husband is in FBI. People make mistakes. They don’t get fired immediately. There is usually something written up in their files and what usually happens is that the write up usually prevents a person from rising in the ranks as quickly as those with spotless records. There is a lot of money put into training these agents. They don’t get fired immediately for a mistake. Now if Andrew had done something criminal, that would be a different case. Criminal actions definitely have career consequences that usually result in dismissals. And yes, it’s possible that an ISA agent couldn’t tell the difference between a real deal and a fake. Also, did Andrew go to “Paul’s” rescue in an official capacity? I don’t think so. He went to rescue his boyfriend as an individual. Another big difference.

    #59708
    zodiacpisces1971
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    Andrew went to Paul’s after he was released, another difference. Paul was the one that brought up that he was at the gym, & that someone got into his locker & used Paul’s phone to lure Andrew into that trap, yes, granted, that Andew didn’t do anything criminal, I will give you that, but still, you tell me how highly trained ISA Agents would believe a fake? Helen Keller who isn’t an ISA Agent would be able to tell that what she had seen was a fake & Andrew, couldn’t?

    #59709
    zodiacpisces1971
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    Andrew went to Paul’s after he was released, another difference. Paul was the one that brought up that he was at the gym, & that someone got into his locker & used Paul’s phone to lure Andrew into that trap, yes, granted, that Andew didn’t do anything criminal, I will give you that, but still, you tell me how highly trained ISA Agents would believe a fake? Helen Keller who isn’t an ISA Agent would be able to tell that what she had seen was a fake & Andrew, couldn’t?

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