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Was there a need to bring up the Hemsworth Bros?
When Leo had put it out there that Wilhelmina went running
crying to Sonny has to what he had learned, meaning what
Leo was saying Sloan. With Will heading to NZ., why bring up
another kidnapping plot headed by Xander by bringing up as
to who relayed what to his hubby?This is about Gwen & Leo. With Leo once had a stay in prison,
once before, & so did Gwen as well, they are willing to go
back there again, by defending Xander, given that they did
once prove that Sami never killed Charlie, what happens when
they end proving that all three had a hand in the abduction,
that Will relayed to his hubby?I know that Will isn’t there, I know that Sonny isn’t either,
much less Ari for that matter, but still, who’s going to take
care of a non-existing Ari given of what Gabi is doing has no
one looking after Ari, no matter if she isn’t seen? They
certainly didn’t bring up Will & Sonny taking Ari to NZ, now
have they?I think that without Bonnie willing to testify against Xander, and Gwen and Leo not willing to testify against him, there’s no real case against Xander. The only people who could really be witnesses or whatever, are Ava and Susan. Susan is dead and Ava is insane in Bayview. Will’s testimony would be hearsay, same with Sonny, so there’s that and still no witnesses willing to or able to testify. I don’t think anyone will go to jail.
But remember Rafe. Is he or is he not investigating & that with what he had found could link it to Doug’s Halloween costume, with how Rafe had proven that Sami didn’t kill Charlie, what happens when he learns as to who wore that costume?
I can’t see Bonnie not being willing to testify against Xander, given what he had caused her mania, her lawyer would certainly bring up what caused her mania, don’t you think?
The viewers saw for themselves of Xander handing over Susan to Ava, so howcome these characters don’t take that into consideration, like Gwen for instance, she knew that Susan’s death is on Xander & she’s willing to throw away her father & thinks that Susan’s death is nothing & her love for Xander should triumph over her love for her father?
The next question that I have is how exactly of what Paulina did with Lani equatable to Kayla’s death, no matter if Alex didn’t cause it or not?
Think about it this way when it comes to Stefan. Gabi was broken when Stefan died, she was shattered. When she learned that reprogramming him, could also cause death, she’s willing to lose him again, let’s say the reprogramming works & he does remember his love for her & also remembering also loathing her to high heaven. Remember Will, he may have gotten all of his memories back, & he had told Sonny about how his love for Sonny is in his bones, but he also remembered loving Paul. What happens if & when Stefan remembers loathing Gabi, I can’t see that remembering his love for her would triumph the loathing, given the chance of remembering that?
Xander did not hand over Susan. He kidnapped her and tied her up in the shed on the Kiriakis property. He let Susan go and she showed up to the airfield where EJ was. That’s when Ava appeared and grabbed her at gun point.
Bonnie has already stated she would not testify against Xander and that is why she encouraged Sarah to try and work things out with him.
As for Paulina, I think the point was sometimes we do something that causes a lot of hurt to others, despite our best intentions at the time. And sometimes you’re forgiven and sometimes you’re not, but you should always try to make things up and not just quit. So no, the Lani and Kayla stories aren’t similar, but they have a similar point of forgiveness.
There maybe a similar point of forgiveness regarding Lani & Stephanie, but no one died they way that Kayla did, was there?
Remember, the mausoleum, you tell me as to how Xander didn’t hand Susan over to Ava there?
Allie, Chanel, Gwen, Sarah, Xander, Alex, Chad & Stephanie, Chloe, Gabi & Stefan, Sonny, Paul & Will:
There’s a need to continue this trope, given that they are playing up the same trope involving thirteen people? Don’t you think that it’s time to end this trope?
Even if Susan’s alive in order to have Satan possess her in Heaven for Marlena to see, there’s still attempted murder, look at how Xander felt when he watched the newscast with Sarah regarding Susan’s so-called death, even he knew he was at fault for it.
What I don’t get is that with the hell & the PTSD that Bonnie went through because of Gwen, Leo & Xander, she’s pontificating him to Sarah???WTF
Bonnie—because she’s no saint either. Look what she did and she did it to Justin and Adrienne. She has also moved on with Mickey and attempted to seduce and swindle Victor. She understands that when people get desperate, they will make some bad judgements, that’s why she’s willing to forgive Xander of his crimes.
The way Bonnie was when isn’t the way she is now, what she was then isn’t the issue now, so should it matter as to what she was then given that she isn’t now?
All I’m getting at is that when anyone in soap-land causes that kind of mania, that kind of PTSD, you’re telling me that it’s okay for her to be pontificating Xander, given what he done to her is way worse than what she had once done, given that she no longer does it anymore, when he has now, which we have been seeing out of him recently?
This is two-fold. When Lucas was sent to prison for abducting Sami, Will had brought up that my father wouldn’t want me to halt my life, so he did go to L.A., then when he told Sonny of the job offer that he had gotten then, when recently he had gotten a gig in NZ, yes, I’m sure that Ari & Sonny went with him, but still, yes, Marlena wouldn’t want him to put his life on hold for her, but still, what I’m getting at is putting NZ ahead of her memorial is extremely monstrous, don’t you think?
She didn’t pontificate him. She never said he’s a stand up guy and so awesome because he’s done A,B, and C. She just encouraged Sarah to think about things before jumping straight to divorce. And as you could see from yesterday’s show, looks like she regrets that now that she sees Xander jumped in bed with Gwen. She doesn’t want Xander, but she doesn’t want Gwen to have him either. REGRET!
I see that the episode you brought up that she regrets taking to that level, meaning, the divorce, but what I’m getting at is, yes, I get what Xander did was to provide for Sarah, no matter as to what he had done, he was thinking of her, I get that. What I’m getting at is that with the mental hell that Xander put Bonnie through & the PTSD to that level, that she looks past it & denies it just because she was trying stop Sarah jumping to that level, meaning the decision to divorce, signing them, & taking them to Xander. Think about Nick Fallon for a minute, I’m not defending what Gabi had done to him at all, all Gabi wanted to do what stop Nick’s sick, demented game, crying wolf every second he can get, he was doing it every second, every minute 24/7 & it was getting old very quickly, when she heard him on the phone with Marlena, yet again, Gabi thought he was doing it again, all she wanted to do was to end his game.
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